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Tent pegs for hard ground

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What pegs do people use when hiking. I have endless problem with bent pegs even titanium ones in hard ground. It is not always practical to use a log or rock to tie onto to and I just need usually 2 - 6 pegs which don't try to fold in half.
 

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I use these for some of my camps:
http://www.eastonpoles.com/views/tent/tent-stakes.php

They go into hard ground fairly well. I've had to gently hammer them in with a rock a few times. As long as you wriggle them when taking them out- f you try to pull straight out the end cap can come loose.

I picked up some no name anodised aluminium ones from ebay, when I got them I found they were so soft the would bend easily in the hand!
 

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After lots of trials and tribulations over many years, I've sucked it up and gone back to the good old heavy duty steel pegs. Reliable, take a beating and rarely bend, even in the very hard ground up in Chittering Valley etc. I usually find I can convince them to go in ground with my trusty size 8 boot and I know they will pretty much come out the way they went in.
I've tried plastic, thinner, v-shaped, star picket shaped, twisties etc as well as bush pegs etc and I am yet to truly find better.
I will be watching this thread closely because at about 300g, they weigh as much as my fly, so would love to shed some weight but it will have to be a convincing arguement.
Cheers
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I'm with bloffy...I've tried some fancy pegs over the years but always come back to heavy but bullet proof steel. They go in...they come out...they work...
 

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I use the following, MSR groundhogs, J stakes from Helinox and MSR blizzards, in various configs depending on ground and what the peg is tasked with doing. For really awkward spots, use hootchie cord tied between the bases of trees, or rocks and then run your lines from the tarp to the hootchie cord(you will trip over the ground cord) held when Docs groundhogs bent with the wind. The J stakes, will not bend. They are on special at the moment $16 for 4, delivered.

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The pegs you list Thrud are similar to what I was using. I had the Vargo Titanium Ascent Stakes, fold 4 of them in half and the other too twisted into pretzels. Was thinking of trying something more like a nail peg otherwise will have to go back to steel. I know when I went up north last you needed to have 12mm re-bar stakes to get into the ground. My old man used to take a cordless drill and a long masonry bit and drill a hole in the ground then hammer the pegs in. These Supa-Peg products look interesting http://www.supapeg.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=24.
 

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I got in some Ti Nail Pegs (5mm diameter) for testing and started by hammering them into hardwood and then tried hammering them into a brick with a pretty weighty hammer with no visual signs of damage to the pegs. It was enough for me to decide to stock them. They are made in China, aren't cheap, and appear to be exceptionally well made. They are the strongest lightweight pegs I have come across. http://www.tiergear.com.au/11/online-shop/titanium-nail-pegs.

I think I also have some of those Supa-Peg one's, I got them ages ago- they certainly look similar and I haven't bent one yet. I use them for car based camping.
 

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I use MSR mini groundhogs mostly. As I wanted to keep the weight down I made a pusher from a PVC T piece with a piece of dowel pushed into the upright part. Appropriate size hole drilled in the dowel to support the peg. The top cross part goes against your palm forming the handle. It's not going to go through rock but so far it's worked and only weighs a few grams.
 

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G'day, I use a bunch of different pegs for different things, including thick plastic sand stakes for soft ground (or even sand :linguino: ) which are my favorites being as they're most likely never going to bend on you. However getting these pegs into harder ground isn't going to be easy, so for stuff like that I just carry traditional hook shaped (I guess??) Galv. iron pegs, generally a size 4 or above. For me they just seem to be the easiest option, and at about 75c a piece its also not the end of the world if you do accidentally bend one while out bush.
Hope this helps you somewhat,
Thanks a lot,
Aidan
 

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MSR Mini groundhogs and blizzards; honestly I usually end up carrying both for good measure.
 

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This started me thinking about a few ideas .... but this may be the simplest. The specs say:200mm, Length of Thread 80mm, Width of Thread 15mm, Weight each 22g. UV reinforced fibreglass.
( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12-SCREW...756202?hash=item234170a32a:g:eioAAOSwDk5T7Wm3 ) and there seem to be numerous designs, materials and sellers online for these and similar :
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They look remarkably like a large wood screw, which you can get from a hardware shop (or specialist supplier); but I'm not sure what the weight wold be for say a "12g x 200mm wood screw", but I'll guess about 12g ?


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within my camping enviroment, Coastal NSW, i have never broken or had issues with Easton Aluminium steaks. the blue ones. I have hammered them into almost pure rock and they are good to go.
 

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Ok, pulled the trigger last night with Tier Gear re some alloy Y stakes to give them another. Fairly cheap so no tears if they break, get lost etc.
Ordered last night, on their way today. Good stuff Simon.
BTW. Will have to post up my old setup v my cuuent setup.
Been a few changes. Now starting to come together.

Cheers
Bloffy
 

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14g landscape batten screws 200mm long

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I just weighed these screws at 42 grams each. Could use an Allen key as it is much lighter than a wrench or cordless (for car camping!)

Normal batten screws have a finer thread and are lighter but the coarse thread on these landscape screws means fewer turns in the dirt... Might be worth a test!?
 

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More screws

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Well since I have a lot of these on hand I might be able so save some a trip to the hardware store with a scale.

The three short ones on the left are 100mm long 12g ( g = gauge)
One hex head and 2 batten screws

The hex drive is 19grams
The batten screw is 17grams

The next pair are 200mm long and the left is a 12g batten screw ( 36 grams) and the right is the 14g landscape screw with the coarse thread is 42 grams

The Allen keys to fit are 5mm and a HD one is 24 grams but you could go lighter.

The spanner (or driver) size for the hex head 3/8 or 10mm will do bit it's a touch big and not the right size.

Hope this was helpful for some!
 

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I was window shopping in Kathmandu this afternoon when I spotted these.



 
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